IRC log started Sun Apr 23 00:00:01 2000 [msg(TUNES)] permlog 2000.0423 -:- Downix [down@d-ma-boston-7.ici.net] has joined #tunes -:- SignOff hcf: #TUNES (Leaving) -:- water [water@tnt-9-4.tscnet.net] has joined #tunes re all hey * water/#tunes is quite drunk re water cool yeah i had a great date today great hey hey eih 02:50am * eihrul/#tunes dumped his Haskell graph code. why so? lack of side-effects made it rather cumbersome heh the lisp code is much more comprehensible :) you grok the idea that we can get monads by objects which act as functions on enclosing namespace/objects, right? * eihrul/#tunes hmms. looks like it 03:00am -:- SignOff eihrul: #TUNES ([x]chat) alright well i'll bb tomorrow with good stuff to add to the tunes mix ok of course i'll involve the mlist necessarily (both for slate mlist and tunes mlist) -:- water [water@tnt-9-4.tscnet.net] has left #tunes [] 03:10am -:- nate37 is now known as nate37_asleep -:- SignOff Downix: #TUNES (Leaving) -:- XeF4 [xef4@100.ppp1-5.worldonline.dk] has joined #tunes -:- SignOff XeF4: #TUNES (off) -:- SignOff zarq: #TUNES (Excess Flood) -:- zarq [zarq@10dyn241.delft.casema.net] has joined #tunes -:- Ghyll_ [karltk@msx-osl-17-44.ppp.cybercity.no] has joined #tunes -:- nate37_asleep is now known as nate37_awake_but_not_thinking -:- nate37_awake_but_not_thinking [nate37@cx83983-d.irvn1.occa.home.com] has left #tunes [] -:- hcf [nef@me-portland-us840.javanet.com] has joined #tunes -:- water [water@tnt-9-4.tscnet.net] has joined #tunes -:- SignOff Ghyll_: #TUNES (Ping timeout for Ghyll_[msx-osl-17-44.ppp.cybercity.no]) * water/#tunes reads up on oo forths hm most of these are fairly dull hm the exceptions are (and these are confirmed by papers i've read): MOPS, NEON, Zsoter, and Pountain 10:10am it would probably be much better to go with Joy in order to do oo rather than going with Forth -:- SignOff water: #TUNES (Read error to water[tnt-9-4.tscnet.net]: Connection reset by peer) -:- water [water@tnt-9-4.tscnet.net] has joined #tunes 10:20am -:- GaZzoo [cthwort@98CAE446.ipt.aol.com] has joined #tunes -:- GaZzoo [cthwort@98CAE446.ipt.aol.com] has left #tunes [] -:- SignOff water: #TUNES (Ping timeout for water[tnt-9-4.tscnet.net]) -:- eihrul [lee@usr5-ppp12.lvdi.net] has joined #tunes -:- water [water@tnt-9-39.tscnet.net] has joined #tunes re eih hey * eihrul/#tunes is now working on data flow code. hey why did you drop haskell? well, because representing the properties of a node in haskell was rather cumbersome as i said oh yeah 11:10am i had to use association lists and propagate those through loops :) heh ugh icuc i'm using the slate.lisp to brainstorm library features cool btw, it seems every major gui idea related to mvc was toyed with at some point in st/72 not that they figured out what 99% of the ideas were good for at the time 11:20am also i'm trying to figure out the most general approach to lambda abstraction possible in slate oh, and icucodnk... the new slate parser doesn't require () for top level expressions and will treat a sequence of top level symbols as a list of symbols oh good yeah that's a nice sugaring 11:30am -:- SignOff zarq: #TUNES (Ping timeout for zarq[10dyn241.delft.casema.net]) -:- SignOff eihrul: #TUNES (Ping timeout for eihrul[usr5-ppp12.lvdi.net]) -:- eihrul [lee@usr5-ppp112.lvdi.net] has joined #tunes re re 11:40am hm i think i have a gf now :) she's at least a good friend does she grok bmos? :) lol no but her friend is a linux hacker and groks tunes and he's no slouch for high-level math and proglangs etc she's cooll with it, but it's not here thing anyway, bbiaf 11:50am -:- ult [ult@user-37kbahs.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #Tunes * water/#tunes has returned -:- dmxwoods [dirc@pool-207-205-220-137.pbgh.grid.net] has joined #tunes -:- dmxwoods [dirc@pool-207-205-220-137.pbgh.grid.net] has left #tunes [] -:- dmxwoods [dirc@pool-207-205-220-137.pbgh.grid.net] has joined #tunes wb (sort of) haha do you have questions or some such? no what are tunes though * water/#tunes points at the topic i am confused i went there http://www.tunes.org/ did you find the faq? 12:30pm it's basically an idea for making an OS out of a high-level programming language that can trivially turn itself into other programming languages ok so it is a coumpter business or somtin no not a business nm i am slow today everything we do is free sow aht os have you made heh well, there are people working on different ideas right now ah what os are you on right now win lin or un well, win but only because i have to i use linux and beos for serious stuff what dist or beos mandrake6.5 and 4.5.2 ever run new deal no i'm afraid not new deal the OS for 286's? :) btw, my part of the tunes dev is the HLL work hll? yeah the Tunes High-Level Language take a look here: http://www.tunes.org/sitemap.html 12:40pm -:- SignOff dmxwoods: #TUNES (Ping timeout for dmxwoods[pool-207-205-220-137.pbgh.grid.net]) -:- smklsmkl [sami@ppp107.dial-in.verkkotieto.com] has joined #tunes sam: you there? 12:50pm who's Sam? your sam no i'm not Well, your sami. anyway 01:00pm hm linux on a quad-g4 8) will slate be easily paralleliseable? yes 01:10pm hm that's another thing i need to document the idea is to use namespaces to model domains of a distributed network of computations -:- ult is now known as smklsmklsmkl ok i am BORED. * smklsmklsmkl/#Tunes grins heh -:- smklsmklsmkl is now known as ult well no offense, but you'll entertain more people elsewhere Oh, offense was certainly meant, water. i mean, no one's here but a few coders who are also bored hehe well i have a friend who's picking me up soon, so foo on you :) Wow...water with a social life...amazing... no i had one already, it just was on the other side of a large body of water which made things a bit difficult i'm so bored i'll go watch 'conan the barbarian' wow that's really desperate :) -:- SignOff ult: #TUNES (Leaving) btw using rewrite semantics (implemented by simple bmo extensions) within the framework i described above gives you synch semantics 01:20pm -:- hcf_ [nef@me-portland-us701.javanet.com] has joined #tunes -:- SignOff hcf: #TUNES (Read error to hcf[me-portland-us840.javanet.com]: Connection reset by peer) -:- hcf_ is now known as hcf -lilo(lilo@varley.openprojects.net)- [GlobalNotice] Hi all. We are contemplating adding a formal, but non-exclusive relationship with one of our client groups. I want to make sure everyone is okay with that. Please come to #affiliations for a summary. -lilo(lilo@varley.openprojects.net)- [GlobalNotice] Hi all. We are contemplating adding a formal, but non-exclusive relationship with one of our client groups. I want to make sure everyone is okay with that. It's actually two groups, the Debian Project and SPI. Please come to #affiliations for the briefing. -:- Ghyll_ [karltk@msx-osl-17-30.ppp.cybercity.no] has joined #tunes -:- SignOff eihrul: #TUNES (Ping timeout for eihrul[usr5-ppp112.lvdi.net]) -:- eihrul [lee@usr5-ppp127.lvdi.net] has joined #tunes -:- SignOff coreyr: #TUNES (Ping timeout for coreyr[net255ip95.parklink.com]) -:- SignOff Fare: #TUNES (Ping timeout for Fare[esmeralda.enst.fr]) -:- Fare [rideaufr@esmeralda.enst.fr] has joined #Tunes -:- NetSplit: forward.openprojects.net split from sterling.openprojects.net [02:15pm] -:- BitchX+Deb1an: Press Ctrl-F to see who left Ctrl-E to change to [forward.openprojects.net] -:- Netjoined: forward.openprojects.net sterling.openprojects.net -:- smkl [sami@glubimox.yok.utu.fi] has joined #tunes -:- abi [nef@bespin.dhs.org] has joined #tunes -:- smklsmkl [sami@ppp107.dial-in.verkkotieto.com] has joined #tunes -:- hcf [nef@me-portland-us701.javanet.com] has joined #tunes -:- Ghyll_ [karltk@msx-osl-17-30.ppp.cybercity.no] has joined #tunes -:- eihrul [lee@usr5-ppp127.lvdi.net] has joined #tunes -:- coreyr_ [coreyr@net255ip95.parklink.com] has joined #tunes -:- klecoviks [dundo@onyx.bbm.hr] has joined #tunes -:- SignOff klecoviks: #TUNES (Leaving) -:- SignOff Ghyll_: #TUNES (lawn) -:- SignOff smklsmkl: #TUNES (...) -:- _ruiner_ [blah@ppp394.wi.centurytel.net] has joined #tunes -:- SignOff _ruiner_: #TUNES (Leaving) -:- SignOff water: #TUNES (Ping timeout for water[tnt-9-39.tscnet.net]) -:- SignOff hcf: #TUNES (Leaving) -:- water [water@tnt-9-39.tscnet.net] has joined #tunes -:- Nebby [hidden@sl4lh.dorms.usu.edu] has joined #tunes -:- Nebby [hidden@sl4lh.dorms.usu.edu] has left #tunes [] -:- ult [ult@user-38lcn5i.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #Tunes -:- Netjoined: adams.openprojects.net sterling.openprojects.net -:- Fare [rideaufr@esmeralda.enst.fr] has joined #Tunes -:- coreyr_ is now known as corey -:- SignOff ult: #TUNES (Read error to ult[user-38lcn5i.dialup.mindspring.com]: Connection reset by peer) -:- ult [ult@user-38lcmoa.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #Tunes doh.. 06:40pm -:- SignOff water: #TUNES (Read error to water[tnt-9-39.tscnet.net]: No route to host) -:- _ruiner_ [blah@ppp359.wi.centurytel.net] has joined #tunes -:- SignOff _ruiner_: #TUNES (Leaving) -:- hcf [nef@me-portland-us940.javanet.com] has joined #tunes -:- ult_ [ult@user-37kbar2.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #tunes -:- SignOff ult: #TUNES (Read error to ult[user-38lcmoa.dialup.mindspring.com]: Connection reset by peer) -:- ult_ is now known as ult -:- SignOff ult: #TUNES (Leaving) -:- _out [ANORMAL@200-191-83-225-as.acessonet.com.br] has joined #tunes abi: dee is a statically typed, dynamically bound OOPL at http://www.cs.concordia.ca/~faculty/grogono/dee.html 10:10pm abi: mouse is a language for microcomputers at http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Horizon/5350/mouse/index.html abi: TIX is a tiny OS at http://www.angelfire.com/ak/tix/ sheesh... do you just wander through these or are you looking for them? :) dee is linked from http://www.elj.com/sooap/ dee leads to the rest s/from/to from/ 10:30pm i, of course, had already seen them, a while back, just forgot to put em in abi abi: blue is a OOPL for teaching OO concepts at http://www.sd.monash.edu.au/blue/ 10:40pm is the database of abi available public? abi: abi's brain? hmmm... my brain is http://www.tunes.org/~nef/abi/db/ thanks -:- SignOff abi: #TUNES (dying by hcf's request) -:- abi [nef@bespin.dhs.org] has joined #tunes 10:50pm -:- SignOff _out: #TUNES (Leaving) -:- SignOff hcf: #TUNES (Read error to hcf[me-portland-us940.javanet.com]: Connection reset by peer) -:- hcf [nef@me-portland-us819.javanet.com] has joined #tunes -:- SignOff abi: #TUNES (dying by hcf's request) -:- abi [nef@bespin.dhs.org] has joined #tunes -:- SignOff eihrul: #TUNES ([x]chat) abi: Elysium is a project that applies modern design techniques - such as participatory/cooperative design - to the design of a microkernel-based exokernel OS at http://elysium.sourceforge.net [msg(TUNES)] newlog 2000.0424 IRC log ended Mon Apr 24 00:00:01 2000