IRC log started Wed Sep 15 00:00:01 1999
[msg(TUNES)] permlog 1999.0915
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<binEng> hello
07:50am
<binEng> finger
<binEng> oups
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08:00am
<Zhivago> ahh so little changed
08:30am
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<lar1> Hey
04:30pm
<eihrul> lo
<lar1> How do I save a pagin in Lynx?
04:40pm
<eihrul> pagin?
<lar1> s/pagin/page in
<eihrul> umm, what kind of page?
<lar1> Just a regular html file
* lar1/#tunes really likes eihrul's paging idea!
<eihrul> what paging idea?
<lar1> You reflective one
<lar1> Putting the the page tables in the page directory
<eihrul> well, the whole idea is to avoid using a new page table for that
<eihrul> it would work just as well if you had a separate page table for mapping page tables themselves
<eihrul> but this saves you the pain of having to map in that page itself and so forth and maintaining two copies, the extra page of overhead, etc :)
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<arka> hi
<lar1> What do you mean maping?  Like where the page table and all that goes
<lar1> Hey arka
<arka> somebody running licq here?
04:50pm
<eihrul> you have to map all pages into memory before you can play with them
<eihrul> with paging enabled anyway... and disabling paging is somewhat evil, so this makes it effortless to map those specific pages in
<lar1> Why would you want to move your pages?
<lar1> Wait... you can't move a page once its enabled?
<eihrul> i'm not talking about moving pages!
<eihrul> i'm talking about reading/writing pages
<lar1> What do you mean by mapping... I don't think you and me are thinking the same thing...
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05:00pm
<eihrul> probably not
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<eihrul> but i sure as well know what i'm thinking :)
<lar1> Heh
<lar1> Ok, nevermind then
<lar1> Was bfe changed to xforms?
<eihrul> yes
<lar1> Hows bfe comin?
<eihrul> again, it's his project :)
<eihrul> i just contribute code
<lar1> You contribute quite a bit of code say the loges
<lar1> s/loges/logs
<eihrul> which logs?
05:10pm
<lar1> This chans logs
<lar1> Hmm, I am gonna do more learning about C in Linux...
<lar1> accually, be right back, I'm gonna start X
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<lar1> Man, this sucks
<lar1> Hey liar!
<liar> what
<liar> http://www.qzx.com/bfe/
<lar1> X... I need 24bpp but my LCD doesn't really support it
<liar> bummer
<lar1> It won't sync right, so I have all these vertical lines as part of my backound :(
<lar1> Yah, I was reading more in my Linux Porgramming book
<lar1> Bah!  24 bpp _still_ isn't enough!
<liar> i was just yankin yer chain about E needing 24bit color
<liar> but tril did agree with me that it might be yer problem
<lar1> I don't think so... it really does work a hell of a lot better in 24bpp
<lar1> Just now things that should be color are b&w... sooo I need 32... but i totally can't do taht
<liar> does that mean yer really smart when u can make shit up and its right? :)
<lar1> Yup :
<lar1> s/:/:)
<liar> 32 isnt real
<liar> 32 is just 24bit + 8bit alpha channel
<lar1> Hmmm
<lar1> What could I do to help you on bfe?
<liar> we're almost done with it
<lar1> Is there anyhthing I can do to help?
<liar> u can try it out and make suggestions tho
<lar1> Ok... you sure there is nothing in the way of code you need?
<liar> u can do the structure crap if u want
<lar1> Yah!!
<lar1> Can you help me fix my Bochs... It says it can't open the vga font
<liar> oh ya
<liar> make a telnet account for me
<lar1> How?
05:50pm
<liar> adduser qz
<liar> passwd qz
<lar1> ok, nothing special I need to setup?
<liar> as root: 'compress /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc/vga.pcf'
<liar> type that
<liar> then type:   mkfontdir /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc
<lar1> ok
<liar> then:  xset fp rehash
<liar> and try bochs
<lar1> [root@localhost bin]# mkfontdir /usr/lib/fonts/misc
<lar1> mkfontdir: failed to create directory in /usr/lib/fonts/misc
<lar1> Xforms doesn't come in tarballs?!?
<liar> u didnt type it correctly
<liar> oh wait
<liar> uncompress that file
<lar1> Ok
06:00pm
<liar> and then gzip it
<lar1> Doesn't compress gzip?
<liar> no
<liar> gzip is better compression
<lar1> ok
<liar> compress makes it a *.Z
<liar> no u recompressed it
<lar1> I know
<lar1> I was testing somthing
<lar1> How can you see what I am typing?
<liar> i hacked yer box
<lar1> Heh
<lar1> seriously
<liar> hurry up and gzip it
<lar1> Whats the option to compress?
<lar1> nevermind
<liar> gzip /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc/vga.pcf
<liar> ok now run mkfontdir
<lar1> I did
<liar> type: xset fp rehash
<liar> and try bochs
<liar> oh wait
<lar1> wha?
<liar> type:  chmod 444 /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc/vga.pcf.gz
<lar1> then rehash?
<liar> no
<liar> the font just needs to be readable by all or u have to run bochs as root
<liar> its very bad to run programs as root
<liar> :)
<lar1> I was running as root... I think
<liar> dont run bochs as root
<lar1> why not?
<liar> u shouldnt run anything as root unless it needs to be run as root
<lar1> Well it doesn't work anyways
<lar1> [root@localhost bochs-981102]# ./bochs
<lar1> #(0)BX_CPU_C::BX_CPU_C(void) called
<lar1> # state_file::state_file()
<lar1> ./bochs: Warning: no rc file specified.
<lar1> # using rc file '.bochsrc'.
<lar1> # ips = 750000
<liar> did u install bochs?
<lar1> # bx_options.floppy_command_delay = 500
<lar1> # bochs: Cannot open vga font
<lar1> # WARNING: X11: bx_gui_c::exit() not implemented yet.
<lar1> bochs exited, log file was './bochs.out'
<lar1> before sim1_exit
<lar1> # WARNING: X11: bx_gui_c::exit() not implemented yet.
<lar1> before exit
<lar1> # state_file::~state_file()
<lar1> #(0)   memory not freed as it wasn't allocated!
<lar1> #(0)BX_CPU_C::~BX_CPU_C(void) called
<lar1> no
* lar1/#tunes _hates_ phrases like 'see you later gator', mom insists on using them!  grrrrr
<lar1> W
<liar> just tell her to blow u
<lar1> Heh
<liar> :)
06:10pm
<lar1> How can I tell what users are loged in to what tty device?
<liar> w
<lar1> Whats pts?
<liar> psuedo terminal
<lar1> Hmmm, so I can't do something like tail /dev/pts/0?
<lar1> nevermind
<lar1> Can you type somthing into my box?
<lar1> Just anything
<lar1> Witin reason ;)
<liar> eh?
<lar1> Yer still telented to me?
<liar> ya
<lar1> Could you type like ls or somthing in that telnet window?
<liar> ok
<liar> its a little slow
<lar1> Its only a 56k... in November I'll get a cable modem
<lar1> Hmmm, tail /dev/pts/2 doesn't let me see what you type
<liar> i havent typed anything yet
<lar1> ok
<liar> well i did but it still hasnt echo'd back to me
<lar1> Heh
<liar> i think u fucked up my terminal
<liar> i just logged back in and there is no lag
<liar> so u did something that killed my session
<liar> there i typed soemthing
<lar1> You wernt killed... I think I redirected it to the bit bucket
<lar1> Is there anyway to see what you type?
<liar> ya ttysnoop
<liar> dont got, never have, so i dont know anything about it
06:20pm
<lar1> So how did you know what I was doing?  Just by what prosses were going on?
<liar> cept that u can watch everything they type as they type it
<liar> and i think u can type stuff on their terminal with it too
<liar> i was doing an 'ls' on the file
<liar> :")
<lar1> Heh
<lar1> Ok... I feel very stupid now... uhhh, so whats still wrong with bochs
<Zhivago> wow talking :)
<Zhivago> lar: what is bochs complaining about?
<liar> it cant find his vga.pcf font
<liar> and i just helped him correctly install it
<Zhivago> oh, that's easy
<Zhivago> just mkfontdir in that dir, then xset +fp dir; xset fp rehash
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<liar> ya we did
<lar1> I pasted it
<Zhivago> lar: when you type in xlsfonts | less can you see vga in that list?
<lar1> [root@localhost misc]# xlsfonts vga
<lar1> xlsfonts: pattern "vga" unmatched
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<lar1> [root@localhost misc]# xlsfonts vga*
<lar1> xlsfonts: pattern "vga.pcf.gz" unmatched
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<lar1> So no
<Zhivago> lar: then you did it wrong
<lar1> What did I do wrong?!?
<Zhivago> lar: dunno, where did you put that font?
<lar1> I followed, liar and the bochs directors
<Zhivago> lar: where did you put the font?
<lar1> #  /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc
<liar>  /usr/lib/X11/fonts/vga.pcf.gz
<liar> oops
<Zhivago> lar: go into /usr/lib/X11/fonts
<lar1> ok
<Zhivago> lar: vi misc/fonts.dir
<Zhivago> lar: look for vga
<liar> vga.pcf.gz vga
<liar> its in there
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<lar1> vga.pcf.gz vga
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<Zhivago> are you using a font server?
<liar> he should be
<liar> he has rh6
<lar1> I think so.... it says shutting down font server when I shutdown...
<Zhivago> ok, then you probably don't want to do that
<Zhivago> where was the font originally?
<lar1> with the Bochs source?
<liar> in a tarball
06:30pm
<Zhivago> lar: go to that directory in the bochs source where the font is
<Zhivago> lar: type in this
<Zhivago> lar: mkfontdir; xset +fp `pwd`; set fp rehash; xlsfonts | grep vga
<lar1> ok
<lar1> It didn't return anyhing
<Zhivago> xset fp rehash - that should be
<lar1> same result
<Zhivago> lar: in this directory what is in the fonts.dir file?
<lar1> 1 line "0"
<liar> Zhivago: his fonts.dir is identical to mine
<Zhivago> liar empty?
<Zhivago> lar: in this directory what file do you believe is the font?
<liar> in /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc
<lar1> I dunno... this is just the bochs dir
<Zhivago> lar: I said to go to where the font is in the bochs soruce
<Zhivago> lar: not to where the font isn't in teh bochs source
<liar> lar1: goto the font/ dir in the bochs source
<lar1> [root@localhost font]#  mkfontdir; xset +fp `pwd`; xset fp rehash; xlsfonts | grep vga
<lar1> vga
<lar1> [root@localhost font]# ok, now it can't open the harddrive image file
<Zhivago> lar: hurrah
<Zhivago> lar: now fix your .bochsrc
<lar1> :)!
<lar1> Gurmmm
<Zhivago> lar: you probably want to get it to use a virtual floppy image
<lar1> YAY!!
<lar1> Its a working!
<lar1> Or rather, it started
<lar1> But I don't see my OS of choice working... hrmmmm... damnit
<lar1> Unless... how do I start execution?
<liar> c
<liar> u cant tell bochs to boot yer C: drive :)
<lar1> I know
<lar1> I am booting an image of RavenOS
<liar> oh
<lar1> WOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
<liar> thought u were trying to boot windows
<lar1> It works!  It works!  It works!  It works!!!!! YAAAAAAAHHHHHHOOOO!
<lar1> Ok, I'll shut up now
<liar> now try bfe
<lar1> I have to get xforms... what kind of stupid decided not to distribute xforms source?
<liar> u have xforms
<lar1> ok
<liar> it came with rh6
06:40pm
<lar1> It don't compile
<lar1> I don't have Xforms
<lar1> In file included from xglobals.c:1:
<lar1> xglobals.h:4: forms.h: No such file or directory
<lar1> make: *** [xglobals.o] Error 1
<liar> maybe u didnt install it
<lar1> Heh, I am kicking myself for that ;)
<lar1> Do I have glibc 2.1?
<liar> yes
<Tril> what is bfe
<liar> Tril: where have u been?
<liar> Tril: bochs frontend
<Tril> i remembver you were programming something for bochs but I dont remmeber what
<Tril> you mean like a configurator?
<liar> no
<liar> http://www.qzx.com/bfe/
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<lar1> liar:  You gonna submit it to freshmeat when its stable?
<liar> lar1: u can do that :)
<lar1> Yay!
<liar> when its stable i will be working on brix with it
* lar1/#tunes likes helping with other peoples projects
<Tril> i dont understand what it does
<hcf> liar: why no img alt tag?
<liar> hcf: get a real browser
<liar> the entire purpose of the page is to see the image
<hcf> liar: u be dis'ing lynx?
<hcf> liar: a fine purpose, but all i want is a fucking description for the img 1st
<lar1> I don't like netscape or IE, or Opera, and Lynx just don't cut it for most pages... first app for raven is gonna be a good browser
<Tril> hcf: It's a screenshot
<hcf> Tril: no shit
<lar1> heh
<liar> hcf is upset cuz i didnt put an ascii screenshot up for him :)
<lar1> Hrmmm
<hcf> the text "[bfe.gif]" could anything, a logo, a picture of ur ass crack, etc
<liar> adding all the registers to the window is tedious work
<lar1> I'd do it, but I don't know how...
* lar1/#tunes grins
<liar> u can look at how i do the first one and then copy/paste
<lar1> Is it tedious or just repetitive?
<liar> it sucks
06:50pm
<lar1> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
<lar1> make: *** [bfe] Error 1
<Tril> did you try glade(gtk)
<liar> im not using gtk
<liar> and fdesign sucks
<Tril> glade is a gui for designing uis for gtk
<lar1> : /usr/bin/ld: cannot open -lX11: No such file or directory
<lar1> You _were_ using gtk
<liar> lar1: ya but u changed to xforms
<liar> cuz gtk wouldnt let me size the inputs
<lar1> Ohhh, that sucks
<lar1> How do I fix the -lX11 problem?
<Tril> install the library
<liar> the input field for the 10 character address was longer than the field for the instruction
<lar1> Tril:  I have the lib... how the hell else could I be in X?
<liar> lar1: since we both have the same distro u shouldnt have any problems
<lar1> liar:  But I do
<liar> did u install the development shit?
<lar1> Yes
<liar> for X?
<Tril> lar1 find the library and make sure the dir is in the linker's library search path
<lar1> tril:  What is the name of the file?
<liar> libX11.so.*
<Tril> if -lX11 fails then the name is libX11.so
<hcf> abi: glade is also at http://glade.pn.org
<abi> okay, hcf.
<liar>  /usr/X11/lib/libX11.*
<liar> look there
<lar1> Not there
<liar> u dont have them there?
<lar1> No, /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so
<liar> ok
<liar> go into /usr and link X11 to X11R6
<lar1> Just an ln X11 X11R6?
<liar> ln -s X11R6 X11
<lar1> with a -s
<lar1> Yah, oik
<lar1> Whats the difference between a hard link and a sym link?]
<liar> if u kick a hard link it hurts
<lar1> Heh
<lar1> Where does bfe assume Bochs is?
07:00pm
<liar> in the path
<liar> make a /usrlocal/bochs dir
<liar> i put my hdd image and the bochs binary there. then make a bios dir inside the /usr/local/bochs dir and put the bios and vgabios files there
<liar> or just stuff them all into the /usr/local/bochs dir
<liar> and then create a link in /usr/local/bin/ to the bochs binary
07:10pm
<lar1> sorry, dad came in and was talking for a while
07:20pm
<liar> damn, 100 pages of code to just display the registers in a window
<lar1> Heh, I hope you are kidding
<lar1> I don't really feel like debugging that...
<lar1> bfe should tell you _why_ bochs crashed... not just that it did
<lar1> I can't tell why... bochs works fine by itself
<liar> i dont think its possible 
<lar1> Mabye have it print the bochs.out or somthing?
<liar> if bfe says that bochs crashed then it means that bfe received a signal from bochs and i dont think i can read from the pipe to see what bochs said
<lar1> Hmmm, why not?
<liar> u can type: tail whatever_yer_bochs_log_is_called
<lar1> Yah, yah...
<liar> but i have no way of knowing what u named yer log file
<lar1> How do I add to my path?  I thoghht it was set $PATH=$PATH:/new/entry/here?
<lar1> Thats true
<liar> my log file is __BOCHS_LOG__ or something like that
07:30pm
<liar> brb playing a game of starcraft with a risk map
<lar1> k
<lar1> How do I append to my path?
<Tril> lar1 whats your shell
<lar1> bash
<Tril> export PATH=$PATH:/new/dir
<lar1> thanks
<lar1> Heh, I done crashed bfe on my first try!
<lar1> Methinks bfe aint as done as liar thinks
<lar1> And again... hrrmmmm
07:40pm
<liar> yer system is just broken
<lar1> Nope
<lar1> I touched the wrong button
<liar> how did u crash it
<lar1> With the step button.... I should have read the page eh?  I'd have knowen about that bug ;)
<liar> step has no bug
<liar> next does
<liar> and what version of bochs do u have?
<lar1> Step just crashed and I have 981102
<liar> did u put bochs where i told u to put it?
<lar1> Mmmm, no comment...
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<liar> i have no way of looking at yer bochs unless i can run it
<lar1> made more sym links then you should know about.... and then I gave up and added /src/bochs-981102 to my path
<liar> could u edit the .bochrc file in /src/bochs-981102 so i can use it from there?
<lar1> What do you want me to do to the .bochsrc? chmod it?
<liar> add the hdd image
<lar1> I did...
<lar1> 10M
<liar> bochs: panic, could not open hard drive image file ''!
<lar1> Which is just 10Mb of 0's....
<liar> ya the file is ok
<lar1> Uhhh, it works for me
<liar> oh give me read access to .bochsrc
<lar1> ok
<liar> yer running it as root u dink
<lar1> :)
<liar> so dont give me that crap that it works for u
<lar1> :) :) :)
<liar> could u work a little quicker?
07:50pm
<lar1> Well... it _does_ work ;)
<lar1> Yes
<lar1> Have fun!
<lar1> Perhaps you want to DCC me the latest version of bfe?
<lar1> s/want/could
<liar> can i have write access to bochs.out :)
<lar1> heheh
<lar1> No! thats a security hole!! jj
<liar> jeez yer slow
<lar1> U accidently did +r
<lar1> s/u/o
<lar1> s/s/u/o/s/u/i
<liar> i still dont have write access
<Tril> how do i turnoff the linux screen blanker?
<lar1> I did chmod +w bochs.out...
<liar> chmod a+w bochs.out
<lar1> Uhhh, why the a
<liar> all
<lar1> ok
<liar> hmm, bochs wont serve its stupid X window to me
<Tril> xhost +lars.box
<liar> i did
<Tril> are you in ssh?
<liar> and i have display set on his box
<liar> telnet
<liar> lar1: can u give me write access to 10M
<Zhivago> just delete the .bochsrc file in the distribution
<Zhivago> and it will default back to your ~/.bochsrc
<liar> Zhivago: i dont have one :)
<liar> lar1: nevermind, just run bochs and type 's'
<liar> lar1: and tell me what it says
08:00pm
<lar1> ok
<lar1> <bochs:1> s
<lar1> (0) 0xfe05b in ?? ()
<lar1> (0) f000:e05b: b00f: mov AL, #0f
<lar1> liar:  Umm, I need you to explain somthing
<liar> what
<lar1> liar:  I still don't understad org still
<lar1> liar: After yer mods to my bs
<liar> all the code in yer bs file will be relative to 0
<liar> and since ds=7c00h all data access will be 7c00h+offset
<lar1> so org sets ds to 7c00h?
<liar> no
<lar1> I don't get it...
<liar> org tells nasm that all addresses from that point on are relative to 0
<lar1> Which means what?  It treats 0 as 7c00h?
<liar> no
<liar> let say u want to r/w a value that u put in some db in yer bs file
<liar> u would read it with mov ax,[ds:somevalue]
<liar> if u have the 'somevalue db 100' right after an org 0 then the address of somevalue is 0
<liar> if u look at the start of yer bs code it has ds being loaded with 7c0h
<liar> this will make that instruction lookup the data at 7c00h+0
08:10pm
<lar1> Whats the point of that?
<liar> ugh
<liar> u really need to read a book or something
<liar> have u read the art of asm?
<lar1> Nope
<liar> goto my page and find it
<lar1> Uhhhh
<lar1> When BIOS loads my bs... how does that relate to 7c00h?
<liar> the bios loads the bs into 0000h:7c00h
<lar1> Ohh
<lar1> I thought it was 7c00:0000!
* lar1/#tunes feels stupid
<liar> no
<liar> cs=ds=0
<liar> and eip=7c00h
<lar1> Ok, so org 7c00 means my program starts at 7c00h?
<liar> no
<Tril> maybe, but 7c00:0000 accesses the same memory
<liar> it means all data accesses u make in yer code will be relative to 7c00h
<liar> no it dont
<liar> 7c0h:0000 does
<lar1> Ahhh!
<lar1> I'm gonna eat dinner... I'll let this all blob in my head
<lar1> brb
<liar> im finished pasting register code
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<liar> now to figure out all the x,y values :(
08:20pm
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<lar1> Ay!
<liar> this sucks
<lar1> Heh
<lar1> Just have me do it
<lar1> Ooooo I didnt say that!!
<lar1> Well, do you want me to do it?
<liar> odd, i just got email from Network Solutions<netsol1@INTEGRAM.ORG>. is this from internic?
08:40pm
<lar1> Mabye
<lar1> I'd say so
<liar> maild.inte-net.com, thats where it came from
<lar1> I don't really know
<lar1> did you chage the GDT to make my code semgnet 32 bit?
<liar> im gonna start calling it the "inte net" :)
<lar1> heh
<liar> hmm it is internic
<lar1> What does internic want with you?
<liar> they want me to pay $1000 or they will drop qzx.com
<lar1> Why do you owe then $1000?  Multiple years or somthing?
<liar> new registration fees
<lar1> God damn!  What are they at now??
08:50pm
<lar1> Isnotfunto putathingundermyspace bar soitrreal hardto press
<lar1> Nevermind... it is fun
<liar> ok the new bfe is compiled
09:00pm
<lar1> Can you DCC it?
<lar1> Please?
<lar1> Yo?
09:10pm
<liar> its not worth looking at yet
<lar1> You sure?
<liar> yes
<liar> give me another hour
<lar1> ok
<liar> i need to add in eihrul's register code
<lar1> Then what do you want me to add to it?  Anything?
<liar> u can work on the structures
<lar1> I need to read em from the pipe and display em?
<liar> no
<lar1> What am I doing then?
<liar> u need to read in the structure data from a config file and fill out a structure for each structure in the file. and then add all the structures to a list
<liar> there are structure files in the tarball
<liar> and bfe.txt describes the config file format
<lar1> What do you want me to do with that?
<liar> ugh
<liar> read the bfe.txt file
<liar> at the bottom
09:20pm
<lar1> Ok
<liar> the function parse_structures() in structures.c should check for a .bferc file in the current dir, if not found then check the users home dir. then open that file and parse the configuration into structures. and then place pointers to those structures in a list
<lar1> Ok...
<lar1> you want em in an array?
<lar1> What kind of list?
<liar> structure *structure_list[] will work, where structure is the type for the structures
<lar1> Whats the type?
<liar> ugh
<liar> do u know howto make structures?
<lar1> Yes
<lar1> struct myStruct { int foo, char bar, long baz };
<liar> struct type { blah };
<lar1> Uhhh
<lar1> , meaning ; :)
<liar> u will need to use malloc to allocate space for each structure tho cuz they wont all be the same size
<liar> are u looking at bfe.txt?
<lar1> Yes, I have it open
<liar> u can have thousands of values
<lar1> For what
<liar> val1text size1...
<liar> those
<lar1> What are those?  I assume you defined them somwhere else?
<liar> ok write this down
<lar1> Uh oh
<lar1> When you say that... uh oh
<liar> the first item in the structure is a type: LIST STRUC
<liar> the second item is a name, 100 chars will do
<liar> the third is a 32bit base
<liar> the rest are dependant upon the type
<liar> list has nodes and nodesize, struc has nr_values
09:30pm
<lar1> So LIST is a structre with nodes, nodesize?
<liar> ya
<liar> if u can think of any other types then add them
<liar> those are what i need for brix
<lar1> And struc is a structure for nr_values?
<liar> struc is a list with only one node
<lar1> List?  Node?  What the hell are you doing here?
<lar1> You lost me, then it made sense, then you lost me
<lar1> I sence a trend here
<liar> heh
<lar1> I be I am really gonna kick myself when I figure this out
<lar1> Ok, we have a structure, with 2 structures in it?
<liar> uhh
<lar1> struct myStruct { List myList; Struc myStruc; };?
<liar> no
<lar1> BABABABBAhhhh
<liar> hold on
<lar1> ok
09:40pm
<lar1> I think you use a different syntax then I am used to
<lar1> Tril:  Where can I find the works of K&R?  I want my code to conform to their standard a little more...
<liar> no, conform to the qz standard :)
<lar1> Heh
<lar1> myVarible MyFunction datatype
* lar1/#tunes still donesn't understand org
<liar> use that and just parse the config file into it
<lar1> Ok....
<liar> oh crap
<lar1> Wha?
09:50pm
<liar> nodes for LIST is number of total elements in list, not in values[]. and nodesize is number of elements in values[]
<lar1> Is there a special way to read files in linux or is it the same as in windows?
<liar> fopen()
<lar1> Ok, same deal
<lar1> I got to go, I'll take a crack at the code marrow
<liar> k
<lar1> g'night all
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<Tril> dont order that
<Tril> ack....
<Tril> wrong button
<liar> haha
<Tril> ok it was the wrong window.. but i didn type that, I hit up arrow enter
<Tril> i said that yesterday it was in my history in irc
<liar> ah
<liar> it looked like u came outta a drunk sleep
11:10pm
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